a. Using at least one specific example, how was “sin” treated within this film? Was it glamorized/glorified, or did it receive more of a biblical treatment (redemption, justice, mercy, grace, forgiveness, reconciliation, resolution, etc. etc.) Try to use different examples than the ones mentioned in previous posts. Feel free to disagree with other peoples’ ideas.
b. God says we should put nothing “worthless” in front of our eyes. What is good, excellent, redemptive about this film? What was worthwhile? Was anything worthless about it? Can you wholeheartedly recommend this film? To anyone? A pastor? A friend? A sibling? Teacher? Why? Why not? Who would this film NOT be appropriate for and why? Biblically explain and draw your conclusions.

a- For the duration of the movie, the sin was mostly glorified and really not seen as a sin. Joe and the other kids sin a lot and they don't notice that it is really a sin. But as the movie is nearing the end, I saw repentance and forgiveness. For example. when Alice's father is in the car with Mr. Lamb, he says that he didn't mean to harm anyone, and Mr. Lamb forgave him. Also, at the very end, when Alice and Joe see their parents again, they are all forgiving each other, condemning the sins that were made in the film.
ReplyDeleteb- Something redemptive about this film was when the alien listened to Joe, and left. It really showed that just because you have done a lot wrong doesn't mean that you can't be redeemed. Also, I really thought that the redemption and forgiveness between Alice's father and Mr. Lamb. I believe that It was a worthwhile film because it really stressed the importance of forgiveness. The only worthless part about this film was the sins that weren't needed, such as the cussing. I am not sure if it was really needed, so I felt that the movie's message wouldn't have changed if it wasn't there. Lastly, I think I would recommend this film to someone who felt like they haven't been forgiven. I believe this film would be perfect for them because it would show that no matter what you have done in the past, you can always be forgiven.
I agree 100% that no matter what they have done to you, you should forgive them just as Christ forgives us. Because I know that we all sin so we should all try to do better in forgiving others because that is what Jesus Christ wants us to do.
DeleteI agree, just like D. Lyons, that we should forgive them for their sins. Just like they Joe and Alice forgave their fathers, we should forgive them for not following their parents rule, lying, and cussing.
DeleteI completely agree with what Haley said that no matter what you have done in the past, you can always be forgiven. Good job!
DeleteD. Lyons, can you give me more description? I don't understand. If we just try to do better, don't you think there could be an excuse? I think you have to get over those sins, start fresh, and BE better.
DeleteI really would not recommend this film to anyone because, as Haley said they were not condemning these sins they almost made it look good like it was the "right" thing to do. The reason that I thought that they were glorifying the sins because at the end of the movie everyone was repenting for what they did, and the movie was not clear on what Alice's father did to Mr. Lamb. I think that some of the sins where necessary like the children disobeying their parents, but cussing was absolutely not needed at all.
ReplyDeleteAlice's father was drunk and did not go to work on the day of the accident that killed Joe's mother. Joe's mom was waiting to finish her shift but could not leave until Alice's father showed up. Jackson Lamb (Joe's dad) blamed Louis (Alice's dad) for his wife's death.
DeleteI also would not recommend this movie too anyone because, there were so many sins and some of the sins were the right thing to do, but It was also un necessary sins in there like the cussing every 5 minutes and the disobeying was necessary because Joe helped people while disobeying his dad and I didn't really understand why Alice's dad and Mr. Lamb hated each other, but know I do.
DeleteWell I disagree with D. Lyons almost completely because I said that I would recommend this film to someone. I feel that even though the sins were glorified in the beginning, they were condemned when the kids and parents were forgiven. For someone who is struggling with the concept of forgiveness, this would be a great film for them to watch. It really explains that all sins can be forgiven, and that no matter what you have done in the past, your slate can always be wiped clean.
DeleteWell, Haley the cursing was glorified and the sins were not condemned when the kids and the parents apologized forgiveness means that you stop feeling anger towards one another, it still means that whatever happened still happened. You can not ever change that.
DeleteI am not saying that you can change what happened. But they realized that those sins were bad, so they asked for forgiveness. When you are asking for forgiveness, do you think that the sin was bad or that the sin was good? That's what I'm saying.
DeleteSo do you see my point? When you are asking for forgiveness, you aren't thinking, "Man, those sins were so good I need to be forgiven." That doesn't make sense! You are usually thinking, "What I did was bad and wrong, so I need to be forgiven." Does that make sense now?
DeleteWhat they realized is that they messed up just like we ask for forgiveness from God. We most of the time know what we are doing is wrong so before we do it its wrong but then we ask for forgiveness form God and from the people we have hurt.
DeleteYeah so realizing that the sins were bad is glorifying? That sounds like condemning to me.
DeleteCondemning means sentencing someone to a punishment not forgiving. There was no punishment at the end when they forgave each other.
DeleteI disagree with Danielle. I would recomend this movie to people because it showed forgiveness, grace, and mercy. I don't believe that a movie shouldn't be watched because it includes cussing. I see your point but i still disagree. You are right when they did turn it into good, but I think that this movie should be watched by many people. It also shows that we should not look on the outward appearence, but we should look at the heart, because the heart is what matters, not the outward appearence.
DeleteI agree with Dempsey and Counts because this movie should be recommended for people who know better not to use the language that was used in the movie, even though there are sins in the movie that you shouldnt do, that doesnt mean you should miss out on a movie that actually has some what of a Biblical story line
DeleteIt seems everyone thinks that the movie is recommendable and even though there is cussing and un-Christian events, most of you guys thought the sins were able to be condemned. I think that certain parts of the film were Christian and other parts were unnecessary to the plot line like cussing. I do not think the sins were glorified, or at least they didn't mean to make them seem that way. I think that the kids realized some of their sins and tried to fix them, while others like cussing and inappropriate behavior was over looked and not thought about.
DeleteI aree that cussing was not necceary. But i would reccamend this film, it gave a good message of forgivness. I think it would be best for older kids that can decern whether is ok to cuss and do the bad things in this film. yunger kids could me influenced a lot easier.
DeleteYeah, thank you for the back up guys. I really believe that even though there was a lot of apparent sin in the film, most of it was condemned at the end with forgiveness. Glorification happened in the beginning, but slowly started to show a bit of condemnation near the end of the film Super 8.
DeleteI really do not understand what you mean at the end about appearance Drew. Where was the judging or appearance issues? And yes, I see now that it is OK to recommend this to other people I just still think that the cursing was unnecessary because they never condemned the cussing. So I just think that particualar part is wrong.
DeleteI completely agree with Haley. It is not condemning the sins. They just make up and nothing happens. Alice's father gets her back, the alien gets to go back and Joe is fine. But I disagree with the fact that you should not recommend this to people. We can still watch these because it is forgiving just like Haley said.
DeleteA. Most of the sins during the movie were glamorized (except for cursing) because they all seemed the right thing to do. In my opinion disobedience had to be the #1 sin that was glamorized in the film because most of them were for the safety of other citizens. These sins might’ve seemed the right thing to do in our perspective, but they were still sins. Forgiveness and resolution were the two themes that stood out to me the most. Forgiveness was shown because towards the end of the movie family relationships were restored. Resolution was shown because towards the end of the movie the terrestrial or alien got to go back home where it wanted to be all along.
ReplyDeleteB. The fact that family relationships were restored and that the terrestrial got to go back home, the movie had a good side to it. In my opinion the movie was somewhat worthwhile because it taught you valuable lessons about judgement and what the result may be. The worthless part of the movie was cursing and vague summaries of the characters. I would only recommend this film to a pastor, teacher, and teenager because they will understand what is bad, excellent, and redemptive about the film. I wouldn’t recommend this film to a child because they probably won’t understand what the message of the movie is as much.
I agree with you Micah because we sometimes think that what we are doing is right. But ultimately god is the only one that knows what is the best decision in that situation. So we must pray on what to do, and god will give us guidence.
DeleteA- I think that the movie was more following the bible plot line. It showed us consequences of what happens when you sin. For example, Alice's dad being an alcoholic caused her being taken by the alien. And in the end Alice's dad was sort of redeemed when we agreed with Joe's dad to find there kids.
ReplyDeleteB- I wouldn't under no means call this a worthless movie. There is at least a couple redemptive themes. In the bible God is good evil is satan. In the movie the air force kidnaps the alien tortures and does experiments on him. therefore I would think the Air Force would be evil, and the alien would be good. The alien never had any intentions of hurting anyone he just wanted to go home. And in the end he does get to go home, so I think that is a redemptive part of the story.
That is cool how you can relate the air force to evil because it is so true the way that they tortured the old man/teacher was terrible and you could also say the teacher was good too because he didn't ay anything and put his life on the line for the alien.
DeleteI also agree with what you are saying and I like when you said it showed the consequences of sin. You could really see it in some places, but it was very subtle in others.
DeleteI like the way how you viewed the Air Force being evil despite the fact that the alien never did anything wrong to deserve to be treated as their “ordinary” experiment. The alien had feelings too and just wanted to go back home.
DeleteI also love the fact the way you said the air force were the evil ones. i feel like in the world today in many situations we see that one thing is "good" and the other is "bad" when in reality it is the other way around. Just like in this movie.
DeleteA- One sin I saw in this film was when the police were telling the people to evacuate the city. They were telling all the people to not leave that one location but the kids didn’t listen. They escaped the shelter and went out to save Alice’s life. This seems like the right thing to do in this situation since it is to save a life of a friend, but yet they still disobeyed the order. This sin was mostly glorified in the movie because when he found Alice she immediately hugged him and thanked him. He also received mercy when his father never punished him, he was just happy he was alive.
ReplyDeleteB- I did not think this movie was worthless at all. I thought it did a good job of teaching us about sacrifice. Theses kids were sacrificing their lives to go save Alice. Also another place I saw sacrifice was at the very end when the alien was collecting all the mettle objects and Joe gave up his moms necklace, which was very important to him to save his town. I would recommend this movie to anybody because it has a good message behind it. Although maybe not little kids because there was a lot of cursing and they probably wouldn’t understand the message as much as an adult would.
Wonderful/interesting thoughts so far. Does the Bible help support any of the arguments that you all are making?
ReplyDeleteA- I believe that this was a great movie, but it included many sins that affected the story. I agree with Kelly whenever Alice's father was mentioned in her post. I believe that Alice's father received grace when he messed up whenever he go angry and mad at Joe's mother for being at his house talking with Alice. Her father over-reacted and he should have not got as mad. Also, her father got very mad and Alice decided to run away from home. Luckily, Alice and her father, Luis, met up and got things straight and thye forgave each other.
ReplyDeleteB- I believe that the movie only had one "wothless" part. I agree with Micah whenever he mentioned that the cursing during the movie. There was a lot of language that could've been left out. I thought that them never giving up was very good and they stayed together until the very end. I would recomend this movie to pastors, teachers, syblings, and many more people because it was a greata nd there was some language, but that was the only bad thing about the movie. It was also not appropriate because of the slang language.
A- There were many sins in the film such as torturing the alien. At the end of the film it was condemned because Joe realized the alien was just hurt and confused and what the scientists did was wrong. If they had not been so mean to it they would not have gotten into that whole mess. I think they dealt with the alien with grace and forgiveness because Joe understood what the alien had been through and let him have his necklace and leave.
ReplyDeleteB- This film had redemptive parts of it like forgiveness for the alien and joe's dad forgiving alice's dad. It had a few worthless aspects such as cursing which was not necessary to the story. I would recommend it to everyone except little kids because as people have previously said, it has some bad language and they probably would not understand the message. It would not benefit them because of this.
I don't think grace and forgiveness was shown by Joe letting the alien have his mom's necklace. This part of the movie stuck out to me because I thought it was trying to depict the fact that Joe had finally let go of his mom and accepted the fact that she was gone, so he let go of the necklace. I can see where you would think this would be condemning sin, but I took this scene a different way.
DeleteA: I think this movie glorified the sin of cursing and taking Gods name in vain a lot because it made the movie funny and made the characters look cool. For instance when the kids were in the car they would talk about what they saw and the said lots of cuss words. Also in the restaurant they did the same. Mercy was definitely show in this movie when the alien picked up the main character and didn't eat him.
ReplyDeleteB- Something redemptive about this film was in the end Alice's dad apologizes and he shows how much he loves his daughter even though he is an alcoholic. This shows from a biblical point of view that God may put us through trials but he is always with us and loves us. There was some worthless stuff in the movie just mostly the cursing and bad language also the way the air force guy was really mean and torturing. I would recommend this film maybe not whole heartily but if you like action films with a good ending you would like this. I wouldn't recommend this to my pastor only because of the language. A friend yes because my friends would like it, sibling depends what age, a teacher yes because they are old enough to handle it. This film would not be appropriate for church because of the language. My conclusion is that it is a good movie and you can really apply the bible to the situations in many ways. Like the alien taking over the city sin takes over us but we have to fight and stay focused on the lord.
I totally agree with you Natalie. God did show Mercy in this film and the cursing was funny at times, but doing it every 5 minutes just gets annoying.
DeleteI agree that they glorified the cursing in the movie. They made it sound like it was something completely necessary. Some of the words could have replaced with different things. The cursing was insane for one scene. Each thing the said was cursing.
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DeleteI also agree I would not recommend this movie.I feel like in the movie they made it seem like cussing is cool and necessary witch it wasn't a few times might not be so bad, but all the time it starts getting old The movie did have some redemptive parts like when Alice and her father and shows her love. Also with joe and his dad.
I also agree I would not recommend this movie to a pastor, but only because of the cursing it wasn't necessary. One other thing I really liked how you used the ending of the movie when the alien took over the city and applied it to real life good job.
DeleteI agree! It was still a good movie, because you could recognize the redemptive part of the story. Recommending this movie to your pastor is probably not the wisest choice. I think that this movie was an excellent choice to show to a Bible class because it is easy to identify the sin and redemption.
DeleteA-I think the sins in the movie were more glamorized then glorified. A lot of the language comes from the teenagers. In addition, we see the teens driving without driver's licenses, and with no punishments in the end. This is, in my opinion, terribly irresponsible and shame on the filmmakers for this serious mistake. There is a character in the movie that smokes marijuana and he is a chaperone to the kids and drives them. The parents in the movie showed mercy because there was no punishment on the children in the end. (At least we did not see it)
ReplyDeleteB-There are some wonderful themes of forgiveness, which are present in the movie—especially needed in the development of the principal characters—which sin a ton in the movie. This movie I would recommend for anyone who was around 15 years and but after they watch it, talk about what you saw in the film and how most of it was not biblical. The cursing and the overall disobedience should be talked about after the movie. The film would not be appropriate in my opionion to kids younger then 10 because of how the teens in the movie disobey their parents might make then 10 year olds want to do the same.
A. I agree that this movie had a lot of sin in it. One sin of Mr. Lamb was his judgment of Mr. Dainard. Mr. Lamb was portrayed in the movie as a pretty good man overall. He supported a family and was a police officer. He was flawed, however. He was not an involved father, and Joe felt that his father did not really know him. Mr. Lamb did not seem to acknowledge his flaw. He did, however, see and judge the flaws of Mr. Dainard. Mr. Dainard was a drunk, and his drunkenness caused Mrs. Lamb to be at the wrong place at the wrong time. Mr. Lamb judged Mr. Dainard a bad person and blamed him for his wife’s death, even though the direct cause of her death was a factory accident. The Bible tells us, in Matthew 7: 1-3 “Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye?” I think his sin was treated Biblically in the film. Toward the end of the film, Mr. Dainard apologizes for his part in Mrs. Lamb’s death. Mr. Lamb shows Mr. Dainard mercy and forgiveness. He tells him, “It was an accident.” He has stopped judging Mr. Dainard and has stopped blaming him. He also tells Joe, “I’ve got you.” This shows he has recognized his own flaws and is determined to remedy them.
ReplyDeleteB. I did not feel that this was a worthless film. It did show sin. (It seemed to show a lot of sin, though I am still trying to figure out if it has more than other films I’ve watched or it just seemed as though it had more because I was specifically looking for the sin.) I do not have a problem with the film showing sin because life is full of sin. Some have commented that the sin went unpunished. I think that we are all accountable for our actions and our sins, but few of us sit down at the end of a day or a week to account for all of our sins. Some sin seems to slip by, as it did in the movie. As Christians, we understand that we should not sin, but that, inevitably, we will. We also understand that we are ultimately accountable to God. Matthew 12: 36-37 says, “I tell you, on the day of judgment people will give account for every careless word they speak, for by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.” I thought the overall message of the movie was uplifting, and I thought it showed many positive aspects of human nature. I would not recommend this film to someone too young to understand how to evaluate this film biblically.
A. I agree that this movie had a lot of sin in it. One sin of Mr. Lamb was his judgment of Mr. Dainard. Mr. Lamb was portrayed in the movie as a pretty good man overall. He supported a family and was a police officer. He was flawed, however. He was not an involved father, and Joe felt that his father did not really know him. Mr. Lamb did not seem to acknowledge his flaw. He did, however, see and judge the flaws of Mr. Dainard. Mr. Dainard was a drunk, and his drunkenness caused Mrs. Lamb to be at the wrong place at the wrong time. Mr. Lamb judged Mr. Dainard a bad person and blamed him for his wife’s death, even though the direct cause of her death was a factory accident. The Bible tells us, in Matthew 7: 1-3 “Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye?” I think his sin was treated Biblically in the film. Toward the end of the film, Mr. Dainard apologizes for his part in Mrs. Lamb’s death. Mr. Lamb shows Mr. Dainard mercy and forgiveness. He tells him, “It was an accident.” He has stopped judging Mr. Dainard and has stopped blaming him. He also tells Joe, “I’ve got you.” This shows he has recognized his own flaws and is determined to remedy them.
ReplyDeleteB. I did not feel that this was a worthless film. It did show sin. (It seemed to show a lot of sin, though I am still trying to figure out if it has more than other films I’ve watched or it just seemed as though it had more because I was specifically looking for the sin.) I do not have a problem with the film showing sin because life is full of sin. Some have commented that the sin went unpunished. I think that we are all accountable for our actions and our sins, but few of us sit down at the end of a day or a week to account for all of our sins. Some sin seems to slip by, as it did in the movie. As Christians, we understand that we should not sin, but that, inevitably, we will. We also understand that we are ultimately accountable to God. Matthew 12: 36-37 says, “I tell you, on the day of judgment people will give account for every careless word they speak, for by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.” I thought the overall message of the movie was uplifting, and I thought it showed many positive aspects of human nature. I would not recommend this film to someone too young to understand how to evaluate this film biblically.
Great point! I totally agree with you that Mr. Lamb was uninvolved with his son and that Mr. Dainard’s drunkenness caused him to be viewed terribly by Mr. Lamb. Nice job!
DeleteI agree with Olivia that this is a good movie to watch and I would recommend it to anyone. As she said we all sin like the people in the movie did. The sins in that movie may seem worse than the sin you commit but they all are equal, sin is sin. All that matters is if you repent your sin to the Lord.
Deletea) Sin was treated in this movie several ways. For instance, near the end of the movie Joe's dad forgave Alice's dad for killing his wife by saying, "It was an accident." Mercy was shown in this scene by Joe's father. So this sin of murder was put to shame and not glorified because it showed the affects of the family's brokenness without the mom around. Other sins, that many people have named like using the Lord's name in vain was not treated well. So many characters in the movie cussed and used bad language to the point where it was almost like they were saying this is okay, which it isn't. Another example of sin was Alice not honoring her father by stealing his car without his permission, this once again was not treated and was glorified.
ReplyDeleteb) The good thing I found about this movie was the way all the friends worked together to fix the main conflict, and no one was left behind. Joe mirrored something God would do by going back and risking his life to find/save Alice. I also found this film extremely relatable to anyone who has lost someone close to them like a family member. It dealt with loss in a mature way. I thought this movie was worthwhile and to me nothing worthless happened. It seemed as if every scene had to do with the main storyline or conflict. I would recommend this film to anyone who wants to watch an action movie that has a genuine story behind it, and that is old enough to be mature about bad language. I wouldn't recommend this to young kids who wouldn't take much out of it besides the language, but overall there is nothing holding me back from recommending it.
I really agree with the fact this story dealt with the loss of someone close maturely. The death of Joe's mother didn't affect him too much to the point he was depressed and he was able to go on through life well. Especially at the end when he let her go, I think that was the mature and right thing to do in his circumstance.
Deletea) I think there were different ways to treat different sins. None of them were truly glorified, but many of them were taken care of in a biblical way. For example, the humans in this film were redeemed in the favor of the alien. Because of Joe's willingness to try to understand the creature, him and his friends lived. The alien was angry with humans in general because of what the people in the military did to him years before. All he wanted to do was go home, and they weren't allowing him to. When Joe found this out, he was brave enough to confront the creature. If he hadn't done that they all probably would've died. Even if everyone else treated the alien bad, maybe Joe's understanding redeemed the military's mistakes or even just human beings in general. Redemption definitely played a major role in this movie.
ReplyDeleteb) Something that is good in this film is Joe's willingness to understand the alien. The cursing and smoking maybe was worthless, but it did add a bit of humor into the movie. I would most definitely recommend this movie because I enjoyed the time frame it was located in and I liked the plot. I'd recommend it to anyone but children because it wouldn't exactly be appropriate for them to watch. There were some swear words and actions that might influence younger children whom don't know better to do bad things. Biblically, children shouldn't watch this because there parents most likely doesn't allow them to and that would be disobeying if they did. The Bible says to honor your father and mother.
I like how you mentioned the part about how Joe really tried to understand the alien instead of everybody else who tried to kill them. All of the towns people were very scared so they ran instead of the boys who went back to save the others who got captured. Joe tried to save some of them even though some died.
DeleteDo you think the alien did it on purpose or did he not know better? because if he didn't know better than why were the bodies hung upside down? But i do agree about what you said about Joe actually trying to understand the alien. I think that is what he wanted, he wanted people to understand him. nobody understood him so that's why he was always angry.
DeleteA.) In this film a large amount of sin was shown. There was cursing, disobedience, and self endangerment. The cursing was not necessary to the story, but it created an image of immaturity that made the characters actions seem more impressive. The disobedience was partially necessary. Alice could have had a driver's license. But when the children ran away from the bus station, they saved the town. The self-endangerment comes from Mr. Woodward driving his truck into a train.Even though he was trying to save the creature, God does not want us to intentionally harm ourselves in any way. I don't feel like the sin was made to look appealing, but give the film a little bit of connectivity to the real world. After all, a perfect movie in an imperfect world just doesn't seem like it would be any good
ReplyDeleteI agree when you said that the cursing shows immaturity, but i disagree that it made the actions more impressive. I think Mr. Woodward driving his truck into the train was actually glorified. It made him seem unselfish and even though he was rebelling against the government it made him look good.
DeleteI agree with you Damon. All the cursing and unnecessary sin, in my opinion, made the characters look cool. The Bible says to live your life to the fullest, so suicide, or in this case the train incident, would be technically be against what the Bible says. I don't see Mr. Woodward's crashing into the train as self-endangerment, I see it more as sacrifice. It would be self-endangerment, in my opinion, if he just crashed into the train without any real reason. I think that there is no such thing as a "perfect" movie because every movie will have sin, but some have more unnecessary sin than others.
DeleteI agree with alot of what C.McCall said. Cursing does show immaturity, but how does it make them look more impressive? Ooh! The big boy knows some big words! I’m so scared! You can easily not use cursing and show you are impressive. I also don't fully agree with the self-endangerment of Mr.Woodward Damon. He plowed head first into the train trying to stop it. You would want to believe that he knew that it was a one way ticket. He was probably thinking it was for the greater good.
DeleteB.) I would recommend this film to anyone 15 and older. That does not include esteemed members of the church or senior citizens. This film was highly suspenseful and sinful. Some redemption was shown the alien is made out to not be evil, just frightened. But still, killing and violence was involved in the film. Explicit language was frequented, and younger children may start to use these words after watching this movie. Viewer discretion is advised.
ReplyDeleteA.) Disobeying your parents was one of the sins in this film. It was actually glamorized within the film. You could argue that this sin was not necessary. When Alice came over in the middle of the night to Joe's house, The cube that makes the monster powerful was released. Although this gave a strong clue to where the monster was hiding... It really was not necessary to the film. This sin was glamorized however because the too kids got to be together in a rough time.
ReplyDeleteB.) I would recommend this film for kids who like to see scary movies. It wasn't really very scary but there were a couple parts that could give you a shock. I would discourage kids who have a weak stomach and are younger than the age of 11. If you are too young or cannot handle cursing espicially by kids our age. To be honest I thought it was kinda worthless because this could never happen in real life.
I completely agree with what you said in you article, I myself completely skipped over the fact where they disobeyed his parents. But you forgot the other sins.
DeleteA.) Disobeying your parents was one of the sins in this film. It was actually glamorized within the film. You could argue that this sin was not necessary. When Alice came over in the middle of the night to Joe's house, The cube that makes the monster powerful was released. Although this gave a strong clue to where the monster was hiding... It really was not necessary to the film. This sin was glamorized however because the too kids got to be together in a rough time.
ReplyDeleteB.) I would recommend this film for kids who like to see scary movies. It wasn't really very scary but there were a couple parts that could give you a shock. I would discourage kids who have a weak stomach and are younger than the age of 11. If you are too young or cannot handle cursing espicially by kids our age. To be honest I thought it was kinda worthless because this could never happen in real life.
I agree that disobeying is a sin thats in the movie but i also believe that this sin was actually necessary beucase is Joe wouldnt have disobeyed his father, they would all stll be cooped up in that shelter that they were being tucked away in. instead, they went and saved the town because the disobeyed their parents to do so if that makes sense. I am not saying that it is always ok to disobey your parents because its not. It was only necessary in the case of the plot line.
DeleteI agree with Victoria that disobeying was necessary to the plot line considering if Joe never disobeyed his dad they might have never been able to save the alien. I also agree that disobeying was partially glamorized when they where all together riding in the car back to the town to save the alien.
DeleteCursing was a issue in this film. It was glamorized by making it funny and making seem okay and acceptable. You could tell cursing was common in the characters vocabulary and was often used through out the film. Another sin was the alien murdering/eating people. It was somewhat glamorized but overall the story was trying to tell you that it was an issue and Joe tries to stop it.
ReplyDeleteI noticed the cursing as well. I am not sure I totally agree that it was glamorized, but the curse words were obviously part of their regular vocabulary. The troubling part for me was that no one in the movie seemed to acknowledge the cursing at all. No one even considered it a sin. I personally think that this movie could have been made without the cursing at all. It had no point. I think the cursing was a worthless part of this movie. I don't understand why the director and writers felt it was necessary.
DeleteI agree with Jessie that the cursing was glamorized in the film because at times it was funny, but it was still unnecessary. I also agree with Olivia that the film could’ve made it without cursing and that putting curse words in that type of movie was completely uncalled for.
DeleteI agree with J. Grega even now in our society today cursing makes you look "cool or popular." In the movie they made it look "cool" so now it is sending a bad message for anyone like "if you curse your cool." The cursing was glorified so the movie had other good messages I just do not agree with the cursing because it would not change the outcome of the movie.
DeleteI have been thinking about of the verbal choice control that is now allowed in society. What ever happened to censorship? Freedom of speech is what? I also find myself counting these blasphemies and thinking about all the words that could have been used instead. The profanity is on the streets, at the store, in the workplace, movies and now on TV. We are becoming so desensitized to hearing this slang language all the time it has become second place for society. What ever happened speaking politely and nice to someone. I want a censorship system to protect me as an adult so I don't have to be subjected this profanity, vulgarity, violence, and moral corruption that defines itself as "entertainment". If we would all speak our peace maybe we could help change this world and not destroy it. It is just my opinion and my freedom of speech, thank you very much.
DeleteThe movie is rated, and language is considered for the rating. The problem is that those in power believe the language shapes the movie. I argued this same movie, with the same message, could have been made without the bad language. Instead, they leave the bad language in, and just adjust the rating. You practically have to watch a cartoon to see a G or PG film.
DeleteI saw that cussing and lying was a problem in Super 8. They cussed a lot, and they lied to their parents quite a few times. I think the cussing and lying was made to look like it was okay to do, like they had a couple of 14-15 year olds cussing like they do it everyday. I also saw that in the film, it looked liked their parents didn't really care or notice their cussing.
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ReplyDeleteOne of the things I noticed alot in the film was the consistent bad language. I understand that by the kids cursing showed the level of fear, but the way the movie treated the sin as if its not that big of a deal. Another sin I noticed was presented in the movie as not that big of a deal or portrayed as not bad just a little bad was consistency of being disobedient. For example when Ally sneaked in Joe's room without permission, and all eight of them sneaking out of their houses to a restricted area. Also, when Ally broke the law by driving a car full of people on the highway, and she was only 14 . The law says you have to be at least 16 to drive.
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ReplyDelete-all of the cussing and the bad language that all of the characters said. The drug use. Alice taking her Dad's car without his permission. Lying.
The good?
Towards the end of the movie Joe's dad forgave Alice's dad for killing his wife by saying, "It was only an accident."
I think that this film in some ways glorified the fact that they were sinning. One example of sinning in the movie was cursing. They would put cursing in funny parts or in scary parts to make it seem necessary. In some the word or words were not needed. One other one is disobeying. A lot of those kids disobeyed their parents and they said they did it for a good reason but I think that they could have gotten permission or they could have maybe let someone else do it. The only thing with those is that in the world we live in if it doesn't have any sin we think that it is boring, which it kind of is. I can admit that movies without some sinful things I will give a bad review to. I think that in order to sometimes even learn a lesson we have to have sin in the movie, but when the sin is glorified that is when it becomes a problem. This movie was very good, to me at least, because it showed how we need to let things go.
ReplyDeleteA) I think that this movie glorified sin in a way. One of the sins that I saw was cursing. I think cursing was not necessary even though it expressed how they felt at the moment; if they were scared or angry. Also there was disobeying in the movie. Alice had to disobey her father so she can help her friends with the movie and the alien case. If she would have not left the house then she and her friends would have not gotten into the mystery of the alien and how it got to their town. If she did listen then they would have not gotten into much trouble. It glorified this sin to me because if the children would have never disobeyed then there would not be a story. It was somewhat saying that you will have to sin sometimes because it is for a good cause. At the end it showed redemption because they all repented to those that they sinned to.
ReplyDeleteB) I liked the movie because of the signs of redemption because at the end Mr. Lamb forgave Alice's father for accidently killing his wife. There was nothing worthless about this movie because this movie send a message saying that you can't hold on to the past you need to forgive and keep going forward.I recommend this movie to teenagers because they might understand the biblical message more than younger kids. This film is not for little kids because the kids my start repeating some of the the bad words.
ReplyDeleteB- What was worth while to me was the fact that Joe actually talked to the alien and told him that he wasn't alone in his situation. He told the alien that he wasn't alone and that he could go home. The alien listened and left and that was pretty cool to me. God wants us to find the best in people and sometimes even relate to them. When you relate to people it becomes so much easier to understand where they are coming from. Joe was going through a difficult time and he needed someone who could understand what was happening. Also when Joe realized that his dad was the person who understood because they both lost a loved one.
ReplyDeleteA. In Super 8 I think most of the sin was glamorized. One sin was all the cursing and bad language that was used. Whenever someone would curse it was usually funny. The movie made it look “cool” to use bad language. Another sin was when the teenage driver was high in his car. Again they made it look funny and “cool” to get high. Also when Alice stole her father car with no license to sneak out. This was dangerous because they could’ve of gotten caught. Also they could’ve crashed.
ReplyDeletei agree they also mad it look ok for kids of a younger age to curse and and dress a curtain way and not get in touble with your parents like charles sister
DeleteI agree with Tylar. She made good points about her opinion. Which helps when someone tries to argue with her. I like how she said the kids are cursing to look “cool”, because kids do that at school to this day.
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DeleteI agree to I think that in the world today also think its "cool" also Felt like, not only did they think it was "cool" but also like it was funny and ok to do.
A) One of the sins in the movie was rebellion. Joe Lamb Had to go against what his father told him to do in order to save the town in a way. That almost makes that Sin necessary...hmmmm...and also I am not saying that this sin is acceptable in a situation like this because in a case like this, there is probably no way you could save the town so you should listen to your parents. But in the story, to make the plotline better, this sin was absoloutly needed.
ReplyDeleteB) I would absoloutly recommend this to even my pastor because the end resolved all the issues and there was forgiveness and it was truly a great story next to all the cussing and swearing and sin.
I don't believe that the sin was neither glorified or condemned. J.J Abrams and Steven Spielberg aren't saying, "Hey kids! It's good to smoke pot or drive without a license! Just don't get caught!" But neither are they saying, "You're gonna wind up in hell if you smoke pot or drive without a license." Just because it's there doesn't mean that the movie isn't promoting it. So what does it do? I think that the sins are made just for the humor. I certainly laughed when there were a few swear words here and there, and when they shrugged it off with a "whatever."
ReplyDeleteBut by making something "funny" isn't that the same as promoting it? Maybe even glorifying it? I am curious what you all think.
DeleteYes, I think that making something funny is the same as promoting it because if they laugh at something that isn't right then they are sort of saying that that is good.
DeleteIt depends on what we call promotion. I don't see they're convincing us to do bad things.
DeleteIt's kind of like video games. I think that violent video games were made to entertain and to one-up other people. Their motive is not to make us murderers.
We just have to know what people mean to say.
I believe making something look "Funny" is in fact promoting it. Movie makers can use this to twist the meaning and the truth about a thing or scene. This can show either a good part about it, or a bad part. Laughing at something very severe doesn't change the event. This can also be scene with "I'm just kidding." You can easily say something very rash and mean in one quick sentence, but then you follow it up with "I'm just kidding!" It still doesn't negate that you said in the first place and make everything better.
DeleteThere is some good but the bad over powers kind of. The good is they display a good image of friendship. Now the bad now theres alot of bad. like T Shockley said they make it look cool to curse and get high and drive under age. One thing about the cursing that bothers me is that they are young kids or teens that just say it on a regular basic. And then theres charles sister who dresses inappropriately to get boys to do what she want and her parents dont care maybe shes 18 and can do what she wants but still. and again like tylar said the make it look cool and its not.
ReplyDeleteI agree what Sydney said that there is a lot of sin the movie but ther are also good things.
DeleteThere were many examples of sin in this movie. For one Joe was sneaking out with other people without his fathers permission and then he gets in the car with Alice who legally can't drive either. Another example is that they all say things that they probably shouldn't have at many points in this movie. I don't think that they can really tell the story without sin because it shows us what type of people they are. They also have to sneak out for us to be able to understand the plot of the story. I think that the sin was not put up as a good thing but it wasn't put down either.
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ReplyDeleteAll the cussing and profanity said by the children in order to create laughs by the audience, teenage video store clergy asking the child if he wanted some crack, Alice stealing her fathers car without a license, stealing Joe's dad's camera and money from the kid's mom, etc etc...
The Good:
At the end Joe's father forgiving Alice's dad for missing his shift and Joe's mom dying in the process, Joe wanting to finish the movie for his friend, etc etc...
A. There was some foul language in the movie. Normally, when some people get scared, they use bad words. This is what happened in the movie, because the characters were scared when the train that was transporting the alien hit the truck. The Bible says, in James 3:10, that when you use bad words, it ruins the good things that you say. You can’t say bad words and good words. It is one or the other. I felt like the movie was saying that swearing was ok when someone is scared or surprised. The movie played it off like it was no big deal and God said that we are not supposed to use that kind of language.
ReplyDeleteB. I would not recommend this movie to anyone. There were some moments that I thought were worth seeing but overall, I didn’t really like it. The only thing I liked was when the guy risked his life to save the alien. This showed grace, because the alien didn’t do anything for him, so the alien didn’t deserve it. The movie was hard to follow and I didn’t really get it.
The bad in the movie would consist of: the teenage clerk asking the children if thy had wanted any drugs, all the cussing and the profanity of and said by the children, Alice stealing her fathers car without a license, and finally stealing Joe's dad's camera and money from the kid's mom.
ReplyDeleteThe good consist of: the redemption at the end of the movie, when Joe's father showed forgiveness to Alice's dad for missing his shift and the mom dying because of it, and finally Joe wanting to finish the movie just for his friends sake.
B. I would recommend this movie to any 10 to 13 year old who stay through the first 15 minutes of a slow movie but can endure the rest of the petrifying film, it wasn't that scary, but you have to be mature to understand and not have nightmares for weeks.
ReplyDeleteA.) I would recommend this movie to anyone 14 and older. This movie is very sinful. I think there is grace in the movie because in the end they let the alien leave earth when they could have killed it. They also understood that the alien was afraid.
ReplyDeleteB.) Something about the film that is redemptive is how forgiving the alien is and the main characters. Even though the alien has caused a lot of trouble and has taken people the main characters still understand the alien. The alien also forgives the humans because even though it suffered a lot of pain it still did not kill anyone. It was simply scared. Some scenes in the movies were worthless like when they cursed. I can recommend this film because I felt like in the end they had a good storyline and the had a good ending.
One sin that occurred during the film that really stuck out to me was when Allie's dad had really thought about what had happened to Joe's dad and he had become over whelmed by it and turned into an alcoholic and had his wife leave him. That night when he was in the car with Joe's dad and both of them were scared they connected with each other in a desperate time. Allie's dad apologizes for the mistake he make and asked if he forgave him, Joe's dad just said it was an accident. I think at that moment there was a hole that was filled in. Joe's dad showed grace to Allie's dad by helping him look for Allie and then together they cared for other people and watched out for each other and their kids. I can defiantly recommend this film because it shows that if you think that a person will not forgive you at all. you are wrong because some where in their heart they will find God and God will help them forgive you for your mistakes. I recommend this film to everyone because I think that it has good morals even though some things are not entirely appropriate it is still great. This film was worthwhile my time I think it benefited me in a different style or showing grace, sin, and forgiveness. I do not think this film would be appropriate to little kids, people who don't want to hear cussing and anyone who does not want to see graphic scenes. I overall think that this movie had Biblical parts that were used for the better to show different elements of the story and show us Christians how knowledge of the Lord can be shown in everyday movie and life.
ReplyDeleteWonderful thoughts. I wonder... Does Scripture address forgiving the sinner and what that should look like. Some have referenced other passages but I think there is still more that the Bible talks about. Is there anything else you can find?
DeleteSome of the sin was the cursing. A lot of people think that cussing is fun. And just because you cuss your cool. But really your not cool.
ReplyDeleteCould you give a little more detail Luke?
ReplyDeleteI believe that some of the sin was cussing, and dishonoring your father and mother. Joe has this big fight with his dad and ditto for Alice but in real life this would be wrong and to make the plot line better they needed it.
ReplyDeleteA. One sin that stayed constant throughout the movie was cussing. The movie made it look acceptable and normal. Cursing was glorified and never accounted for. During suspenseful scenes or even normal conversations included a lot of cussing. The movie would be just as good if they left it out.
ReplyDeleteB. One of the good things about the film was that there was a lessons to be learned at the end. One of them was that we need to look towards the future rather than living in the past. I thought that tying in a back lesson was excellent. The relationship between Joe and Alice's dads were a redemptive part of the story. I would recommend this film to middle school kids and older because it is a little too intense for the younger crowd. The cussing and sinning could influence the younger kids.
A. When the train was crashing, the characters were cussing left, right, and center. It wasn't treated biblically, but it wasn't glorified, either. When Alice was driving her dad's car without a license, it wasn't glorified because her dad found out in the end.
ReplyDeleteB. I think that the film has a good storyline and there is redemption in the end because they find everyone that was missing and the alien goes away. The only bad thing that I really saw was that there was a lot of cussing. I would recommend this to anyone that is mature enough to handle the cussing.
An example of a sin being glamorized in the film would be when Alice ran away from her father. This had to be one of the most glamorized sins during the movie because Alice had a logical explanation as to why she ran away. Mr. Dainard (Alice’s father) was drunk and he let that get the best of him by yelling at Alice. Once Alice left, Mr. Dainard had qualms and realized what he did was a big mistake.
ReplyDeleteAnother example of sin during the film would be when Joe and his friends snuck out of the Air Force Base to rescue Alice. I would consider this to be sin that was glamorized because they did this to rescue Alice and save her life.
ReplyDeleteI would consider the sin of Joe and his friends breaking into their school to be glamorized, but almost on the border line between a sin being glamorized or completely evil. I would consider this type of sin to be reconciliation because at the school they broke into Woodward’s stash of confiscated items to see if there was anything there to benefit them saving Alice. During the recordings, it was shown the same “extraterrestrial” whom was wreaking havoc upon the town. Apparently, the extraterrestrial was imprisoned by the government in 1958 when it crashed on Earth. It was also shown that Woodward and the extraterrestrial established a bond with each other once Woodward was attacked by the extraterrestrial. Dr. Woodward colliding with the train in the beginning of the movie was to simply free the extraterrestrial trapped inside the train. That sort of act can be seen as redemption because the extraterrestrial was finally set free, yet to find its way back home.
ReplyDeleteB. Something good about this film is overcoming appearances and looking at the heart. I don’t think that Super 8 was all worthwhile because it wasn’t ALL good. The only thing worthless about it was sin, but sin isn’t something you can magically make disappear. We will always be stuck with sin no matter what we try! I wouldn’t say I could wholeheartedly recommend this film to someone who will freak out if they have known a teen has seen a movie with these certain sins. I would say I could recommend this movie to someone more my age. I say this because it is a entertaining movie for teens. If someone were talking Biblically I would not recommend this because of the sins.
ReplyDeleteA. This film treated most sins like nothing happened. Some sin was glorified as in it was made to be a joke. For example, when the dramatic asked if the kid wanted to buy weed, it was made to be funny.
ReplyDeleteB. The good thing about this film is that the alien was saved and in the end everyone was friends again. YAY! :P sorry i needed to make a face. Some worthless things about this film was all the cussing and a guy being high on weed. I could recommend this show to kids my age, but I would probably warn them about the big sins that aren't good to see. I wouldn't recommend this to young children because of the sins.
One other thing I think was glorified was the use of fire and firecrackers. The kid treated them like they were meant to be played with and considered them as toys. This was very dangerous and he could have extremely hurt himself or other people.
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ReplyDeletein this film sin is treated as though it is an ok thing to do. They almost glorify the sins that are in this film by making them look very necessary
ReplyDeleteA) For one example, I thought that the cussing/rude language wasn't for necessary for the movie to play out, but I wouldn't consider them glorifying it in any way. On another note, the sin of disobeying your parents was hit, but in the end, they justified it. I think this because the children had a better view on the situation at hand. Their fathers didn't understand exactly how everything was playing out emotionally and physically. Joe and Alice justified themselves by proving in the end that they had to disobey their parents to save their town and get the alien to head back home.
ReplyDeleteB) What I thought was great and redemptive was how the alien was finally able to head back on its way home because Joe, Alice, and his friends decided to stand up and sacrifice their relationships with their families and possibly their lives. The tension (how's it going to end?) and curiosity (what are the cubes all about? how did Joe's mom die?) buildup throughout the movie was completely worthwhile. What I didn't really enjoy and thought was kind of ridiculous in a worthless state was the worthless scenes that occasionally took place. These scenes include Joe's friend's family arguing about who-knows-what and similar instances. I personally would recommend this movie to basically anyone except young children or the older adults. I say this for young kids because of the bad language used throughout and the random scenes that make you jump in fright; for the older audience not really because this movie would most likely not interest or relate to them in many ways.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Baker because the kid had no write to those fireworks. He could have injured him and others. if he was caught by the police they would not be happy and neither would god. In Titus 3:1. What it is saying is when you please others such as Your principal and your parents, you are also pleasing the lord.
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